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WWII British vs.Japanese Rifles, at the range (sub-titled)

Let’s first start out with the Enfield #4 British battle rifle in 303 Brit caliber. Gonna shoot out at 25 yards Greek surplus ammo. that is five Second long gun we are doing to shoot is the number 5 jungle carbine same ammo Greek surplus Yes, these stripper clips work great sarcasm, not really That one kicks a little more Last in our series here is the Japanese Arisaka 7.7 mm which is essentially a 30 caliber We are shooting Hornady loads that are kind of mild for an old weapon, since I am attached to it because it was my fathers (WWII bring back) Same drill 25 yards That is a little bit bigger group these sights , even though it has a peep, are not as nice as the British rifles. Here is a look at the 3 targets we just shot 2 British rifles and the Japanese First one here is the number 4 Enfield Fairly good group but this is only 25 yards a close quarters kind of shot A bit better for recording on video with another camera Second one here is our number 5 jungle carbine . That is a pretty good group Nice sight on the British rifles because the rear sight is up close to your eye Last one is the 7.7 Japanese Arisaka A little harder to see those sights quickly because the rear sight is more forward on the receiver But with time I am sure I can shrink groups down quite a bit Been a lot of fun though I do not get to shoot these too often.

100 thoughts on “WWII British vs.Japanese Rifles, at the range (sub-titled)

  1. Let a Japanese try these two rifles, using the early-time-made rifles, rather than the late, low-quality rifles. By the way, how come British rifle, rather than M1, Italian, or Mauser, as a comparison ???

  2. Bought my Enfield! IV 2 about six years ago, in Woodstock, Ga for $275. It is a great rifle and shoots dead on. I have owned several Moisins and you can still get real good ones here for around $100.

  3. The Gloster Meteor was combat operational 2 weeks before the the 262.By the end of summer 44 the Meteor was doing 500 mph.Nearly a match for the me 262.

  4. albert… that is interesting information and great to know. WWII was a big factor in the technological strides made by all the countries involved in the war. The level of advances during this time, was huge compared to earlier years. Thanks for adding to the discussion.

  5. Moisins up here are 169$.Enfields now are at best far and few between.I regret selling mine but the Poly-Tech m14 i got for it has .308 head spacing and a forged reciever and bolt.At 100 yards with irons it' ll do under an inch.

  6. I have owned many Arisaka as well. I like the model 99. The last one i had was a beautiful specimen. It had aircraft sights, dust cover, bayonet, sling (repro), and cleaning rod. It shot excellent and i never had any issues with accuracy on any Arisaka I owned. The 7.7 Arisaka is identical to the .303 Brit. except it was a rimless cartridge. The Japaneses were impressed with .303 Lewis guns and took the .303 and improved it. Never let anyone tell you the Arisaka wasn't spot on. A nice one is.

  7. Yeah i know.I had an Arisaka some years back.Good shooter.It cost me 50 bucks back then.Worth quite a bit now i'll bet.

  8. I know your making this up because I actually know history very indeed.
    Your the type of person makes up stuff and bends the truth because your blinded by emotion. so fuck you!!!! good day.

  9. i had a 7.7mm Japanese rifle also, belonged to my Dad,it is extremely accurate,flawless bol action/feed. the peep sight is all you need on these rifles..However the .303 British Mark 4 is my favorite..The Japanese 7.7mm
    is great!!!

  10. Ulysses..$300 is reasonable money to spend for a great example of WWII military rifle. A decent Mosin is fast approaching that cost, and they are nowhere near as good a rifle, IMHO, Jon

  11. albert, I bet you wish now you had purchased several at that price. I know that is what I would think. Thanks for adding to the discussion. Jon.

  12. albert, I would think that was quite a stressful mission on your uncle. Knowing if he did not succeed, innocent civilians may die.

  13. grady, I really like this 7.7 Japanese Arisaka. It too was my Dad's rifle. I only regret not having the opportunity to get to shoot it with him while he was around.

  14. The Enfield Chargers (Stripper Clips) with five holes were made in Pakistan and are not noted for working very well.

  15. Oh without a doubt. My second gun purchase was a No.4 Mk.I that I had for about $350 after taxes and fees. Best $350 I've ever spent. Mosins here run in the area of $100, $500 for a sniper version.

    I've shot Garands, Mausers, Mosins, and Lee Enfields and by far my favorite is the No.4. Great sights and silky smooth action.

  16. Cynical RSO…That explains why these are troublesome. Good way to store ammo, but not a speedy reload. Thanks for adding to the discussion. Jon

  17. Ulysses…I agree that Enfields are way underrated. The downside is costly factory ammo, and short brass life for reloads.

  18. Some have reported running the chargers thru a rock / brass polisher to get rid of the rough edges and / or parkerizing. It seems that once they are smoothed up, they work a lot better. I heard this from guys who shoot in vintage military matches that require rapid reloads.

  19. The good ones are made of thinner metal and usually have four holes in the side. The last ones I bought from Numrich were the better variety. Once you get the nack they can be very fast to use. There was a legendary Warrent Officer instructor in the British army who put 32 rounds in a 12" bull prone at 300 yards in one minute with a Lee Enfield.

  20. CynicalRSO… I tried to do a madminute, for MrDaveinAB channel challenge. I was only able to get 15 rounds off in the 60 seconds. 32 would be almost super human ability. I will try to get another style clips, and see if they work better for me. Thanks for the tip. Jon

  21. cool, i like both our rifles and Japanese ones, Japanese rifles get a bit to much bad press, because of the cruder "last-ditch" ones, they were very well made in pre-war days and early ww2!

  22. as an American I can see the Enfield is a fantastic gun 🙂 I own 2 and they destroy the mosin nagant and arisaka. I would say they're evenly matched vs the 1903 springfield and the k98. but the cocking on closing is pretty nice on them

  23. Try this hypothetical test folks – imagine you know nothing of the respective history and origins of the Enfield and the Japanese rifles and were not allowed to try them out first – which one of the two would you want to buy or take into battle just by looking at it ? (Easy I think).

  24. thanks for making a good video. What part of the US are you in. The hills looked beautiful. I used to shoot in the Missouri Ozarks and really miss the backwoods.

  25. Really interesting video featuring two of my favourite guns (No4 and No5 Lee Enfields) but one observation that may have been noticed before is that in terms of the British war in the Far East the two British guns both did not see service until 1945 (the No4 saw service in 44 as well) so surely the Lee Enfield SMLE MKIII would have been a more accurate comparison as it saw service in the Far East 1941-45? That aside a really nice video

  26. Gotta love these 303, the supply of them here isn't to bad, they are fairly reasonable, getting a full ww2 british small arm collection is virtually impossible on the mainland though, the .455 webley pistol being a pain to get, and if you want to have it at home you can have no ammo.

  27. they kicked the shit out of british asses in singapore with low quality arm, such a disgrace for colonial power

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  29. Sorry, in my opinion one cannot compare the Lee Enfield to the Japanese service weapon. The Lee Enfield has a greater mag capacity and a far smoother bolt action. The Japanese weapon was a considerable adversary primarily because the man behind it (the Japanese soldier) was a formidable and dangerous enemy. Both weapons are extremely reliable, accurate, well made, and 'got the job done.'

  30. 2nd one fired in this video is also called the "Jungle Gun" and had an inherent problem with loading and a "wandering zero" effect which made it all but useless except at close range engagements (i.e. 120 yards or closer). It might also help if you pushed towards the back of the round (towards the base of the shell), The old shell strips suck, but it'll go easier if you do it that way. Nice one with the Arisaka, I always wondered what one of those would fire like.
    good job 😀

  31. the 3rd. rifle has the tiring factor after shooting the first two heavy rifle. do it again with the Arisaka the first rifle. you may get different results.

  32. with the  lee enfield rifle  there is a knack  to using the clips.      with your left hand place all your fingers on the underside of the wooden furniture  then place your thumb on the top round in the stripper,,  then simply push down with your thumb while bracing your fingers against the wood.    I   was trained on the number 4 (lee enfield) as a cadet and   never once had trouble loading from a "stripper clip"

  33. The type 99 may be old, but the Arisaka has one of the toughest actions of any bolt action. It is a stronger action then the British rifle. I have one and it is a pleasure to shoot. Ammo is very expensive if you do not reload, though.

  34. The number 5 jungle carbine was introduced after the war… thought they were made in 44 none were being introduced till after the war and even after the war it didn't really catch on, my grandfather passed out with a no. 4 during the 50's

  35. 1.09 Problem with the stripper clip. Does he know the rounds had to be loaded with the rims alternately "up" and "down" the rule was 3 "up" or back in the clip and 2 "down" or forward in the clip like " -_-_- " otherwise it was prone to jam. The problem could have been avoided by using rimless cartridges but the British taxpayers had millions of rimed cartridges in store when the rifle was adopted and did not want to dump them.  It was not a problem with proper training but I wonder how many less trained men got shot trying to clear jams? Still the taxpayers saved a few bucks. 

  36. I have two Arisakas. One is the full length, straight bolt 7.7mm (F.I.L brought back in WWII).  The other is a sporterized, bent bolt 6.5mm.  Like both of them.  Actually the 6.5 has slightly more felt recoil due to the fact that it has had a lot of the forward wood removed (making it lighter).

  37. Enjoyed the video
    I have more then a few Enfields and Arisakas , I think these later Enfields have better sights that make shooting them accurately easier, and safety is better then on the Japanese rifles.
    In my experience the Arisakas especial early war ones are very nice rifles and shoot accurately , I would feel very well armed with one.
    I have a nice mk5 Jungle Carbine that is as accurate as my Mk 4 , you always hear about them not being accurate , can't prove it by me.
    Do kick you a bit, don't know what they thought that hard rubber pad was going to do!

  38. Once the Japanese were done with the British in Malaya and Burma, in excess of 120,000 Lee Enfields littered the ground at Singapore.

  39. I don't care who he thinks he is, he's a novice when it comes to bolt action rifles. Seriously. The British Expeditionary force could fire these Lee Enfield's like machine guns.

  40. the stripper clips work fine if you stack them correctly, rim over rim. will also stop rim lock like you had on one of the first 5 rounds

  41. good vid, i have the MK III and the MK5.
    Used them in long range competition ( 1000 yds MKIII) very accurate and the MK5 for pigs in the bush quick to shoulder and fire ( Australia) both are awesome.
    Main advantage is the 10 rd capacity and you can drop mags and feed new one quickly.
    Veterans of WWII told me that they would use the stripper clips after firing 5 rounds to make sure it was topped up.

  42. Yep the dreaded rim over rim on the #4 and the stripper clips work great , duh ! Your ability to use the sights etc is not a fair appraisal of the Arisaka , given the choice I would take the 7.7 for any purpose that I had to defend my life with . Now to be fair the Mk4 was not generally used against the Type 99 it was the open sighted Mk 3 made in Australia .

  43. I much rather carry an Type 99 than a Enfield no4. Having handled both the type 99 and the no4 I can conclude that the Arisaka feels better and is much more user friendly in overall design(stronger receiver and bolt, and good gas mitigation).

  44. The proper technique for loading Lee-Enfields was to prop them up at about 30degrees, so that the stripper clips feed in smoothly, not holding the rifle level. You weren't 20th century British Army trained, but you could have figured it out from the shape of the clip.

  45. The U.S. did testing on the Arisaka action and tried to destroy it with a fine fast burning powder and where not able to it did melt the brass in the chamber but the rifle survived

  46. Ironically, the original Japanese 7.7 round was a copy of the 303 and had a rim. They later made both semi rimmed and then a rimless version (for the Type 99) of that same round. I used to have both a No. 4 Mk 1 and a type 99. The Arisaka consistently out shot the No. 4 but all the 7.7 was new manufacture Norma ammo while the 303 was always surplus, some being very old. I never got the hang of the 303 stripper clips. I no longer have either gun and the Arisaka was in perfect condition, mum, cover, and everything.

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