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Why you Need Float Levels on Sniper Rifles | Special Forces Sniper Technique | Tactical Rifleman

Alright gents so I want to talk about why we
use float levels on sniper rifles now back in the day in 15-20 years ago we
never had a float level any bubble level anything out of sniper rifles now we
were taught in school Sniper school you know rifle has to be has to be level has
to be level have to be level but they really never got in deep into the weeds
on just how important it is now we worry about making those exact wind
Corrections you’re making sure that we’re not a you know a half minute angle
off half minute angle you’re talking half an inch at one football field away
right we’re talking about you know even when we talk about a whole minute of
angle that’s only three inches at 300 meters okay but we worry so much about
our wind calls and we never worried about the can’t on the gun and the
reason for that was most of the time we were shooting on a range of flat range
most of your sniper ranges are known distance sniper ranges they’re very very
flat the berms are completely level and you could just level your crosshairs on
the top of that berm the guns were always level now where that really bit
us in the ass was now when we’re up in the mountains in Afghanistan there’s no
level lines if you’re up fighting in the mountains how do you make sure that that
crosshair is completely level with the horizon right no uh-uh yeah well it
doesn’t make that big of a difference well actually it really does now the
trajectory of your bullet everybody knows that okay comes out the barrel
goes up Rises comes down and falls down into the target max ordnance we all got
all that picture it coming towards towards the bad guy comes out of the end
of the gun it goes up curves and it drops down into the target now that’s
fine gravity is doing all the work but if I can’t that gun even just the degree
which it’s easy to get two three four degrees now that bullets going out is it
going to curve back down like that no it’s not going to go out
and it’s going to dogleg back in the other direction so what we didn’t
realize was back then if we had a couple of degrees of Kant in the gun when
you’re out shooting at six seven eight hundred meter target on the unknown
distance ranges I’d very uneven terrain that we pull the trigger and if the guy
missed by four feet we just figured while either the spotter gave a really
bad wind call or the wind shifted but we never thought that maybe had nothing to
do with a bad wind call maybe the actual shooter had his gun candid and it would
not need to be candid very much at all to make that much of a mess at that
distance so anyways we’ve seen the error of our ways and now that guys are
deathly accurate about this we’ve got to have the gun level every shot accurate
shooting at distance is all about consistency so what we use now on our
guns our float levels this particular one right here is made by horse vision
it’s got a angle indicator on the side and then it’s got a really small float
level on the top okay this other one over here on this other
gun it’s made by flat line ups it just has the bubble level now people would
say well this version is better because it’s got the angle indicator yes and no
here’s the deal if I’m having to worry about angle down onto the battlefield I
can calculate that once and I don’t have to worry about it for the rest of the
shots that I’m taking in that area however every time I pull the trigger I
have to make sure that gun is level I have to make sure it’s a level so me
personally I prefer the flat line ops one it’s called the acculevel covert
this one’s at 34 millimeter version the reason why I like it is it lays nice and
flat you see it’s leveled nothing sticking out on the gun okay but and
it’s readable like that but also what you can do is you can actually flip it
over to the side and now even with my eye behind that ocular lens of the scope
I can still see the level off the side of the gun so if I was to flip it to the
side here even shooting it right-handed I can
see that all right left shooting it left-handed I
can see that I so I heard someone say what’s well you know there’s a potential
there for that thing to be off no not really
another reason why I like this one here by flat line ops is it’s it’s you
can zero it it sounds weird but isn’t important to have your level completely
horizontal also yeah it is so level the gun when you first put that
scope on then level your float level once you get it on there the cool part
about the flat line ops version is it has a micro adjustable screw underneath
here comes with the allen wrench to adjust it which levels this up and down
to make sure that it’s completely horizontal with the cross line uh cross hairs and there’s there’s another one the on the opposite side of the gun
right here that would do the same thing make sure that it’s level so
you don’t have to keep messing with it on the gun once you set that puppy in
and you lock tight it all down this is a 338 Lapua brother this thing’s going to
rattle your teeth loose lock tight everything but once it’s set this thing
you can still do micro adjustments on it when it’s in this position and then
again in this one so anyways um so that’s a that’s the
skinny on why we use a level and these are two examples of levels other other
are there other types yeah and honestly I really don’t care which which model
which brand you you go to what I care though is I putting all these
accessories on the gun on the guns aren’t just for looks alright don’t add
the extra weight if you don’t need it but I’m here to tell you it is very
important to make sure that that gun is level it’s all about consistency and
you’ve got to make sure that gun is level every shot that you take alright
so that’s it for float levels on sniper rifles if you’ve got any questions or
comments leave them below

59 thoughts on “Why you Need Float Levels on Sniper Rifles | Special Forces Sniper Technique | Tactical Rifleman

  1. This is absolutely wrong. The bullet flies the same way irregardless of the angle of the gun. According to this video the rifle isn't governed by physics. However the scope would be cant throwing all the holdovers off.

  2. Can those float levels look pretty cool and nicely done with this video too thank you so much for your different things that you had shared ..

  3. I honestly don't know the answer to this and I think it will help me understand the physics of firearms. I understand the concept of bullet arc, but is that a natural cause of the round being expelled from the chamber from the explosion of the powder? Or is it because the barrel is not parallel to the ground (At an upward angle) while the rail is and this causes the arc?
    By the way guys, love the videos! I was at T1G a few years back and learned a lot that I still carry with me.

  4. Could you guys do some videos that have to do with team-squad related things? Maybe like room clearing or immediate actions drills? You have tons of excellent videos that deal with individual skills but what about videos that could help us develop our units?

  5. Crazy how ever war the military learns something new and adjust. Before this video I thought those levels were goofy gadget BS, but now it makes perfect sense. Thanks for the info.

  6. Okay, here is my understanding of how this works. The barrel of a gun is a round pipe. No matter how much you rotate it the bullets path is not changed. When you tilt a rifle out of level you are effecting the relationship between true vertical and true horizontal in regards to the optics adjusting system. So when you adjust for elevation you are also effecting the windage because the elevation adjustment is now not moving straight up but rather at an angle causing your point of aim to change in both elevation and in windage at the same time.

  7. a ton of money to the first scope maker that builds a floating level in the scope sight picture. do it go!

  8. This is off topic, but how do you guys feel about Eotechs with the lawsuit in mind and all. I knew some guys in the Ranger Batt when I was in, and they still loved em.

  9. I just level the cross. If you can not see level you need to work in construction for a while. A level on you weapon is a gimmick. Or you just can't shoot.

  10. Watch THLR (on youtube) and his view on cantlevels. Human eye can differentiate on 0.3° angle cants. No need for equipment.

  11. Maybe I'm retarded but wouldn't the bullet still come out the same whether the gun is straight up and down or even upside down? I mean take it to its natural reverse. if the gun were upside down it wouldn't drop differently. It seems to me it has more to do with the fact that the scope is elevated off of the barrel. Theoretically if you could sight down the bore it wouldn't matter if the gun was 45 degrees or upside down. I could be mistaken tho. can someone explain this? and wouldn't your level have a greater effect the higher that your scope is mounted off of the rail?

  12. Springfield armory came out with a 3x9x56 scope in 94 that had a sprit level in the sight picture and was inside the scope.This mickey mouse rig will not come back to centet.

  13. When you cant the weapon to achieve level how do you then deal with parallax, proper cheek weld, and site alignment?

  14. For those who think eyeballing it is best, experiment by going prone, first aiming directly ahead.easy to level there. Now, go 20 degrees off to the side. You'll find your head is at a different angle affecting your perception of level. You'll likely be canting.

  15. Is there a difference where the bubble level is positioned? Either mounted on the scope, or, the rifle? Assuming the scope is leveled to the rifle.

  16. Great Video ! Watched some of the great Sniper 101 series… And this is another way to miss on the First Shot… Thank you for the video ! tjl

  17. No matter how much you know, or may be a subject matter expert- some asshat will be along shortly to tell you how you're wrong.

    1: No, canting the rifle doesn't alter physics, it creates a LAUNCH ANGLE ERROR which changes the point of impact IN RELATION TO WHERE YOU ARE AIMING. Cant the rifle left, your shot will impact low and left of WHERE YOU ARE AIMING. Canting right= low and right. The way he explained it and tracked with his finger, IS the way it APPEARS watching the path of the bullet from shooter's (or spotter's) perspective.

    2: If you think you can always eyball your rifle level, get off the flat range and try it. I have worked in construction all my life and have a better eye than most- but in places where we shoot there is no level ground anywhere, shooting position isn't level, target area isn't level, and target may be mounted on a crooked stick. Sure, in an urban environment or on a flat range you can always find something plumb or level to eyball against, but out in the field, not so much.

    3: Lots of people come to rifle class thinking it doesn't matter, but after a few misses (and setting a level on top of the gun they THOUGHT was level)- they ask to borrow a level. At least the ones capable of learning do 😉

    4: When someone hands you a gem like this, for free- just take it and use it, FFS. If Tiger Woods was taking the time to show you how to hit a golf ball- would you argue with him, or would you STFU and pay close attention?

  18. I wish I could draw a picture because this concept is so easy to understand visually but hard for some people to grasp by description alone. This dude is dead on, leveling is critical in small groupings at range. If you don't believe it try hitting a target at 500 yards with your gun turned 90 degrees. Shouldn't matter right? Go find out.

  19. It's much the same as being damn sure that your compass needle is not snagging the least little bit when attaining or following an azimuth. A little bit off in your base reading can mean a hell of a lot off in closing head on with your objective!
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  20. I love all the videos and lessons from an amazing warrior but don’t ya think it’s too much info put out there on the Internet to train the bad guys? I feel like it gives up allot of tactics we use from breaching a structure to room clearing movement NOD use etc..

  21. What do you think of the Picatinny-Style like the Flatline Ops Tango RM ACCU/LEVEL Scope Level? is it better to just use the levels that mount directly on the scope?

  22. This all makes perfect sence, especially at distance. Some people skiped calculus,maybe they were to cool for math,and stink at shooting long.

  23. Bullet is round so is barrel where it spins around it's centre. Can you please expand why is it important to get your scope level and how is it possible to find reference point on the round barrel to mount scope to it? I wasn't sarcastic here. Cheers..

  24. Such an overlooked aspect of shooting. Such a simple fix. So many guys put themselves at a deficit from the start because they neglect to control every single possible variable at the shooters position before the round even leaves the muzzle. With 175gr SMK 3 degrees of cant which the average human eye cannot see results in over a 2 foot change in POA/POI at 1000yds. Already at a 2 foot deficit at 1000yds. Neglecting to account for spin drift can add another foot deficit. Already 3 feet off target depending on which way the gun is canted at 1000 yds. And now we didnt even get to wind and range uncertainty, MV deviation, and user error.

    Great video, diggin the channel guys 👍

  25. sigh Another piece of gear that I was certain was unnecessary and wouldn't need then find out it's important for any long range shooting even if it is optional equipment.

  26. Yeah sure…another gimmick to spend money on… those bubble levels are not accurate enough…. good product placement…..

  27. It's important to make sure the gun is level but I feel this pertains more to shooting from a pod or a rest if you're shooting offhand primarily I don't think a level is practical to check for each shot you just have to do your best to keep your reticle square

  28. I had an old school 6x springfield scope with the level built in to the reticle. Made so much difference in long range shooting. Never shot better since then. Will buy a level for my sniper remington 5r. Thanks for reminding me.

  29. Your content is awesome man, can't stop coming back.
    Isn't 1 moa at 100 meters 29mm though? Since at 100 yards (91Meters) it's an inch. Correct me if I'm wrong I'm new to all this stuff. Thanks again for your content.

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