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Shooting the Czech vz61 Skorpion: Machine Pistol or PDW?


Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to
another video on Forgotten Weapons. Yesterday we talked about the history
and the mechanics of the vz.61 Skorpion. And today we’re out here on the range and
we’re gonna do a little bit of shooting with it. Now … the real question on the range is
how are you supposed to use this thing? Because it’s not really a pistol.
It’s not really a submachine gun. It’s … not quite unique, but it’s
in between a lot of different categories. Well, we’re gonna try
out a couple things today. So I’ve got the gun on, in its holster,
and in this setup this is in fact a substantially more convenient
gun to carry than a submachine gun. It’s huge for a pistol, but if you’re something
like a tank crew, or an artillery crewman, or someone who doesn’t need a full size gun,
but needs something better than a pistol, this really isn’t that bad to carry around. Got a
couple of mag pouches, also not bad at all. Definitely more convenient than
a slung submachine gun or carbine. At the same time, it does have
more firepower than a pistol. So, well let’s break it out
and just see how it works. Put it into full-auto, charge it, and you start with this little, dinky ten
round magazine because it fits in the holster. Once that thing’s expended
(I’ll just drop it in there), then we go to our 20 round magazines. 20 rounds, really not that large
of a capacity for a gun like this. I think the purpose of this is, if you
start to get much longer of a magazine, now you’re kind of creeping
into submachine gun territory. And if you’re gonna have a big magazine,
well, why not have a little bit bigger gun, and well, now you’ve got a submachine
gun. If you want to keep it compact, you’re kind of limited on the size of the
magazines you’re gonna be able to use. Anyway, once we’ve got a 20 rounder
in here, we can drop the bolt. And in short controlled bursts,
this actually works pretty well. You’ll notice it’s actually
dropping brass on my head. The brass goes straight up, like way up,
and then comes straight back down. Ah, jeez, see that’s what I’m talking
about with the brass coming down. What I was going to say was, as long as you’ve
got the stock deployed, even in a full, long burst, it’s pretty easy to keep this
controllable. At least on, you know, a couple foot square target, a
human size target, at 20 or 25 yards. Much more than that, it’s going to
be very difficult to shoot precisely. But you could definitely keep someone’s
head down with this. If you need to get out of your tank, and get to cover
because your tank’s been disabled, this is a gun that will
kind of take care of that for you. So a couple thoughts about this. It does
fire from a closed bolt, which is nice, that helps for accuracy. These charging
handle little nubs are kind of annoying to use. You cannot do this really …
Well OK, you can do it one-handed, but … that’s kind of weird. I understand why they did it that way,
because you’d rather have a kind of obnoxious charging handle to use,
than have some big things sticking out of the gun that completely screws up
your ability to carry it conveniently. You also have a selector switch,
so in semi-auto you have a pistol. You have a heavy and awkward pistol,
and I would not recommend firing it from just the pistol configuration in full-auto. If it’s on
semi have the stock folded, if it’s on full-auto (do that without muzzling myself,
you’ll notice), on full-auto the stock’s out. If the stock’s out, always leave it on full-auto
because that’s the way this gun really is meant to run. These are a lot of fun in full-auto,
because there’s basically no recoil. The gun jumps around on you a little bit,
but it’s not really pushing back into your shoulder. As long as you have even a little
modicum of full-auto experience, you’re not going to have this thing climb
uncontrollably on you with the stock. With just the pistol grip, may be different.
But as long as you’ve got the stock out, it’s a lot of fun. Of course fun isn’t what it was designed for,
but I can understand … the utility of this. It’s a gun designed for a very specific
task, and the features of the gun are made to match that task,
and it does it pretty well, so. Alright, so I made an assumption
that was incorrect here. I assumed that this pistol, this machine pistol,
would behave like most other machine pistols. Namely if you tried to fire it this way, it would be
completely uncontrollable, and you’d be doing this. That’s been my experience with all
of the other machine pistols I’ve fired. However, I figured you guys would want to see it.
So I took this slow-motion video of me trying that. As you can see, it doesn’t climb hardly at all.
And that took me really by surprise. But, when we filmed that we were just about out
of ammo for the day, so we are back here today. And I want to do a little bit more of that
shooting, and do it live real-time for you guys. So the thing with the Skorpion is that because it’s
in .32 ACP, and it’s got that nice rate reducer in there, it’s actually not that horrible of a gun to
shoot like a pistol, much to my surprise. Full-auto. You can actually control that thing. And I’m out. So I stand corrected, while this is not
as accurate and effective as a standard service pistol in semi-auto,
when fired in this configuration, it’s definitely controllable and it’s definitely usable.
And if you put in some time to practice, I think you could actually be really quite effective
with it in this form, and that’s pretty cool. I always like it when I discover something
new and unexpected about a gun, and that definitely happened here today. Hopefully you guys enjoyed the video,
thank you very much for watching. I would definitely like to thank Marstar,
up in Canada, for allowing me access to their Skorpion to do some shooting with. If you
are into the shooting sports up in Canada, definitely check out Marstar. They’ve got all sorts of
firearms and accessories, and cool surplus stuff as well. Thanks for watching You

100 thoughts on “Shooting the Czech vz61 Skorpion: Machine Pistol or PDW?

  1. I very much appreciate the fact that you actually put your title description in the first ten seconds. No talking, no bs, just good ole slo mo shot. Beautiful

  2. I remember shooting one of these in Iraq in 2003; I was surprised by his initial comment because I remember it very controllable w/o the stock as a pistol on full auto…I could have shot it all day; very comfortable, very controllable.

  3. To increase the effectiveness, you can flip the gun 90 degrees to either side, so the brass flies into another enemy. Super operator!

  4. Imagine that!… the Czechs designed (very well) a firearm very well suited to the role it was going to fill!

    FYI, this was actually very popular with the Czech Special Operations Reconnaissance troops.

  5. weird to say with the mags, ive seena few people running these with drum mags, probably after market or custom made guess holding around 50 rounds or so

  6. I only got to use the 9mm Makarov version (Vz 65. Which has a straight magazine) for what I'd call a decent length of time, but I loved it. The 9mmK (.380 Auto in the US) version has to be even more controllable. I love the rate of fire, especially with the limited magazine capacity. It doesn't take much practice at all to tap off 2/3 round bursts, and that's not an easy thing to do with a full-sized SMG. Much less a little Machinepistol with a coat-hanger stock. I have to say, I like it a lot better than the mini, or Micro-Uzies. (Nothing's better than the full sized Uzi. The MP-5 is As Good, but you can't get much better.) Wear a hat. Wear a Tanker's Beret, or something like that. You will get bopped on the head by hot brass.

  7. O.M.G. By far the funniest thing I've seen in…6 months. Just the sound of round hitting melon! THANKS!

  8. Whenever I see anything about the skorpion I always can’t help but think of the movie snowpiercer and the ridiculous pin point accurate shots that the character is taking from hundreds of yards. Great gun, great movie, terrible scene

  9. When compared to an AOW SBS with a 3 shot tube magazine the vz61 is capable of laying down the same level of firepower with less noise signature, less recoil, a smaller footprint and faster reloads. Remarkable weapon indeed.

  10. Hello, nice video. You can try rest the stock on your cheek by shooting. It is a differrent style of shooting for tall people.

  11. "Fun.. fun isn't something one considers when bailing out of a tank. But this… this does put a smile on my face."

  12. I think a better charging system would be a cylindrica,l triangular, or square finger hole in the bolt that gives your finger purchase on the bolt to pull on it directly. Along a similar line; I wonder if, on the last round hold open, you could push the bolt back enough with your finger through the ejection port

  13. When you are out of ammo and while reloading your Škorpion the falling brass will shoot enemies and help you to survive. Czech genius!

  14. What still falling down for so long on the Czech shooting range when everyone already went home? Škorpion's brass.

  15. I imagine that after a little practice with this thing you learn to tilt the gun slightly to rain brass on your buddy instead of yourself.
    That shell bouncing off of Ian's head was comedic gold.

  16. The ballistics of this .32 acp burst gun would actually be quite adequate for unarmored soft targets. Remember that each of these bullets is roughly equivalent to a 12 gauge 00 buckshot pellet. A 9 round burst striking the target 3 times over 50 yards would be identical in effect to a single shotshell and no one would ever claim a shotgun is nonlethal at 50 yards with 00 buck.

  17. I think the skorpion vz.61 is much more accurate than a standard issue vz.52 and is with an added bonus that it doesnt explode while firing it. 😀

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