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‘Red flag’ laws allow states to seize guns


THEY SAY AT LEAST 30 STATES ARE CONSIDERING PASSING THEIR OWN. SHANNON.>>Shannon: DAN SPRINGER FROM SEATTLE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MORE STATES ARE CONSIDERING PASSING THEIR OWN LAWS JUST LIKE THAT ONE. LET’S BRING IN TONIGHT’S PANEL TO TALK ABOUT IT. SCOTT, DEREK, AND BRE. BRE, I HEAR FROM A LOT OF FOLKS ON THE GUN RIGHTS SIDE WHO SAY WITH THE PROPER DUE PROCESS THEY DON’T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.>>I HONESTLY HAVE KIND OF CONFLICTING FEELINGS ABOUT IT BECAUSE TIME AND TIME AGAIN YOU CAN SEE WHERE IF THAT HAD WRITTEN PROCEDURES IN PLACE, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE FOLLOWED, COULD’VE POTENTIALLY PREVENTED A MASS SHOOTING. ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT DOES CONSTITUTE AN ABILITY TO TAKE IT AWAY? IN THIS CASE, IT SEEMS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. NO ONE HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT IT. IN OTHER CASES, COULD MY PARENT WHO IS UPSET AT ME OR ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER CALL AND HAVE MY GUN TAKEN AWAY FOR A PERSONAL MATTER? THAT’S NOT ALWAYS CLEAR. IT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH AND WE HAVE TO LOOK AT. I THINK IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW REACTIONS PLAY OUT IN SEATTLE AND OTHER STATES ENACTING THESE LAWS.>>Shannon: I TALKED TO LINDSEY GRAHAM AND OTHERS WERE TRYING TO WORK ON SOMETHING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL. THE THING IS, IN HIS CASE, WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, THEY COULD TAKE THE GUN BEFORE THE PERSON WHO IS FIGHTING AND HAS A CHANCE TO GO TO THE JUDGE AND MAKE HIS ARGUMENT. FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE, THAT’S PROBLEMATIC.>>IT IS PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. COURTS RARELY TURN THIS DOWN. I DON’T WANT TO BECOME A FISA SITUATION. I AGREE WITH BRE THAT IT’S IMPORTANT TOOL FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. I THINK WE COULD ALL AGREE THERE ARE PEOPLE WE HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON. IF IT BECOMES WEAPONIZED AND IT BECOMES, A BITTER DIVORCE OR FAMILY FEUD AT CHRISTMAS AND SOMEONE DECIDES I AM GOING TO SHOW THEM WHAT FOR, YOU DON’T WANTED TO BE IN AUTOMATIC TAP IN IN THE COURTS. THERE HAVE TO BE DUE PROCESS PROTECTIONS. IT IS EARLY AND IT’S SPREADING. I DON’T WANTED ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. ON A STATE-BY-STATE LEVEL WHERE THE GOVERNMENT IS MORE ACTIVE DIRECTLY TO THE PEOPLE AND RESPONSIVE TO THE PEOPLE, I’M A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH IT. I NEED TO SEE MORE DATA.>>I HEAR DISCOMFORT FOR MY COLLEAGUES WHO ARE REPUBLICANS OR REPUBLICAN-LIKE. HOW DO DISAGREE WITH THESE SIX STATES THAT SAY IF YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL, MENTALLY CHALLENGED OR HAVE ISSUES AND PEOPLE REPORT YOU AND YOU GIVE THEM DUE PROCESS –>>NOTHING OFF ABOUT YOU, I WANT TO REPORT YOU. ARE YOU OKAY WITH THAT?>>I GET DUE PROCESS.>>Shannon: AS LONG AS THAT PART IS BUILT-IN.>>I AM A FORMER PROSECUTOR. I CAN TELL YOU THESE LAWS WORK. IN ALL OF THE STATES, IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER, YOU HAVE THESE LAWS IN PLACE ALREADY. THIS KIND OF STREAMLINES IT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHETHER IT IS PARKLAND OR SOUTH CAROLINA OR TEXAS, THE RISK OF SOMEONE MENTALLY ILL –>>NOT GOING TO HAVE MY RIGHTS DIMINISHED BECAUSE SOMEBODY ABUSED –>>Shannon: LET ME ASK YOU THIS.>>YOU WANT TO MENTALLY ILL PEOPLE TO HAVE GUNS?>>Shannon: THE ASSESSMENT OF A FRIEND OR FAMILY MEMBER, SOMEONE WHO WOULD WANT TO WEAPONIZE AND WHO GOES TO THE AUTHORITIES.>>THAT’S WHY YOU HAVE A JUDGE, A COURT SYSTEM. THERE RIGHTS MAY BE ABRIDGED THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THE REPUBLICANS SAY FISA WAS MITIGATED BY THE DEMOCRATS. [ALL SPEAKING] ‘S P.R. WE ARE DEVOLVING INTO SOMETHING ELSE. THE FISA FIGHT CONTINUES DURING THE COMMERCIAL.

100 thoughts on “‘Red flag’ laws allow states to seize guns

  1. If red flag laws are passed the militia must step in to defend the Constitution against an ungodly president and the left and right Freemason Masonic order all the Masons must be put out of power and their Masonic temples burn to the ground

  2. If you have more than four or five weapons they are coming for you they are going to Red Flag you it is unconstitutional and it has to stop

  3. They already killed a man trying to defend his constitutional rights against an unconstitutional government who is working with the power of Satan Freemason Lodge in the every nation of Darkness

  4. Wake up my people and be not in bondage to the slave masters who justify themselves and their High seats of power as if they are righteous when they are the wicked

  5. Trumps on board with this. If this point I honestly believe if we are better off if he doesn’t get a second term. If a dem was doing this people would be up in arms. But when the gop does it’s a ok? But hey trump got ASAP rocky out of jail! Maga!

  6. NO NEW GUN LAWS! Bring Back Institutionalizing the mentally insane! Trow away the key! Make it easier to get a court order to permanently commit someone who is insane! The way we used to do!

  7. Anybody will be considered a theeat and the government will take your guns for fake threats and there will be a lot of dead people

  8. trump loses my vote if he passes red flag… it is already being abused in states already… guilty until proven innocent under red flag…

  9. So if a politician is considered dangerous, do we then red flag them and take away the guns from their bodyguards?

  10. This is unconstitutional this is not right and this is very dangerous this is a slippery slope heading right off the cliff we have rights as human beings in American citizens especially as Americans here this is absolutely insane and I as an American citizen do not consent the unlawful search and seizure of my property and my rights and will not comply God bless America God bless freedom this is not right we are acting on emotion not logic stop it we the people

  11. Mentally ill people have rights too stop demonizing mentally ill people not all of them are insane crazy people that are not in control of their self God sakes you know how dangerous this talk is wow

  12. Now we wonder with a prez who says unruly things an hatefull speech and its shown and talked about on every station 23.5 hours a day 7 days a week. What did you think was gunna happen, although about 1/2 are questionable?

  13. "shall not be infringed" Trump is taking your guns and giving every nut job to accuses you of anything then you lose your right to hold a gun, its over if this gets passed

  14. Assault weapon ban im force. And if that means we take it from your cold dead hand, thats your choice if that ban gets restated. So far as red flag laws, thats harder. You want to hunt a deer, hunt it with standard rifle. You need a gun for protection, if 6 bullets is not enough for you, i question if you should have a gun.

  15. The problem I have is who gets to make the assessment that you’re mentally L. I’ve been called mentally ill because I voted for Trump.

  16. If all gun owners will burn their Trump paraphernalia on YouTube he might have a change of heart.
    After all it is election time. He has led all of us good law-abiding citizens down. Now a trump hat means instant gun confiscation

  17. At least one guy in a red flag law state is already dead because of this law! They tried to take his gun, a fight broke out, and the Police killed him. The second amendment "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED"!

  18. Here we are a year later (2019), Trump comes out pushing for red flag laws nationally. Trump just lost the 2020 race. Ted Cruz, can't run again because he seems to be backing the law as well. "A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves"

  19. And you know the state or the town cops will arrive at your door with big friendly grins with their sidearms holstered, when they come to confiscate your property.

  20. Since we've had that War on Drugs, I sure am glad there aren't anymore drugs around 🙄 oh yes it'll be the same for guns right😦

  21. So if your guests on your program can't focus on the argument, should they be red flagged until they can prove they are not going of any harm or detriment to the show (or any other show as wel) ?

  22. Now that Trump has purposed Redflagging why does not Fox talk about it ??? Dump Trump and all traitors that support Redflagging. Gun owners need to start a new party . Let republicons go to hell — they will never hold national office again !!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  23. These mentally ill people will just keep more under the radar or just get a weapon illegally you can’t stop lawlessness with more laws you just restrict the law abiding.

  24. What happens when you can't afford due process the rich can they have all the bodyguards the poor can't afford it you're simply guilty to your proven innocent huh

  25. Medical malpractice kills more people annually than mass shootings every year, what are we gonna do about that, nothing right.

  26. america people are becoming complacent! they have no idea why america fought the British!!War of 1812 governments becomes corrupt!!

  27. Think this will stop the gun violence in Chicago? Where someone is killed every day? Oh and hand guns are illegal.

  28. No because no matter how many laws or regulations the put in place it will NEVER stop the bad guy from getting a gun

  29. why RED ?
    IT'S SATAN'S FOVOTITE COLOR "

    ESAU CAME OUT 1ST & WAS RED & HAIRY "
    HE WAS THE WHITE BABY"

    JACOB CAME 2ND & WAS SMOOTH WITH LITTLE HAIR"
    HE WAS THE BLACK/COPPER
    BABY"

    THEY WERE TWINS FROM FROM REBECCA , ISSACS WIFE"
    BUT OF DIFFERENT SEEDS"

    ESAU WAS SATAN DNA SEED""
    JACOB WAS LORD GOD SEED"

    JACOB

  30. Pre-Crime laws are what we need…it's right out of Orwell's book 1984. Your guilty until you can prove yourself innocent…What a concept! It's diametrically opposite by the US Constitution which is the basic law of the law and protects us from the overreaching power of the government.

  31. If you are found mentally ill then red flag that person and their social security number and finger prints and take their guns not law abiding citizens rights

  32. Law that has good intentions , but does nothing to stop actual crime. What is the point of this law? Many states have this law and if law enforcement or parents and guardians don't report mental health problems. Nothing gets done.

  33. Red Flag laws and Background checks are being enacted with the intention of being abused with the DEVIL in the DETAILS.  Anti-Gun activists will report “targeted” gun owners as being "unstable personalities".  Activist judges & police will confiscate any and all firearms the gun owner has.  The gun owner will never get his investment back. Same with BG checks: Minority Report Pre-Crime swindle.  Existing laws can be enforced to prevent persons with prior FELONY violence CONVICTIONS from owning guns.  Feds ordered 4,000 guns seized in Dec 2017 over BG check anomalies already, how much more tyranny will Anti-Gun freaks impose?  Seizing guns started the 1st American Revolution.  When democrat tyrants demand gun control, we must flatly refuse and COUNTER-DEMAND expansion of 2nd Amendment to its broadest interpretation.  Demand abolishment of all gun-free massacre zones, Demand right to concealed carry to MORE conservatives. Demand conservative’s right to BEAR arms openly to protect from radicalized hysterical leftists who commit violence targeting conservatives

  34. I’m over 50yrs old, comin up we never had mass shootings, we did have hella guns tho,,,in a Free Society Regardless of your crime, you are innocent until proven guilty by a court of law, hell Jeffrey Dahmer was innocent until proven guilty, Red Flag Laws are PreCrime, and violate our 2nd,4th,5th and 14th Amendments,, no matter how you slice it, and that WILL be proven so as soon as they hit the Supreme Court. Thank You.

  35. Meanwhile heart-disease is killing nearly 598k a year………… half a million…………………………but, freedom

  36. Again. "That's why we have courts", says the former prosecutor. Omitted is the fact that people who can't afford to be robbed by the attorneys, etc. will be left high and dry.

  37. It doesn't work in New York. Because New York is one thee largest illegal weapons imports on the planet. Soooo your dumb.

  38. McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term refers to U.S. senator Joseph McCarthy and has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting from the late 1940s through the 1950s.

  39. I think that lunatic lefty is crazy and a danger to me. If I report him will he be put in jail? Have his microphone taken away from him, prevent him from being on TV?

  40. This red flag laws are going from state to state like wildfire! We will lose our freedoms pray for America! These people are crying peace and safety while sudden destruction comes

  41. Being some state who embrace this and some states who reject these laws, with the passing of the laws on a federal level all the states now become part of the happy family of centralize government. And the best part of all, it’s now the federal government who will pick up the tab.

    The problem with the so called red flag law is the same with the national probation act, its sound high and mighty however, when the enthusiasm and finances run out or becomes cost prohibited, then it will become inert law.

  42. Someone should redflag the black guy on the left and then he might be singing a different tune. Due process and the appearance of due process are two different things. The standard of proof that a judge needs to deny someones gun rights is low. Citizens either have to proof they are fit to possess a gun or that they are innocent of an accusation. Thats not how due process works.

  43. President Trump. He killed America. He deceived and betrayed Americans by giving leftist democrat dictators everything they wanted – his Red Flag and Pre-Crime Prison and other new gun laws. Trump killed the US constitution 1st 2nd and 4th amendment rights. He knows the recent staged set up fake mass shootings” are premeditated and preplanned performances to scare and trick good citizens into giving up their guns. Trump gave bad guys and corrupt government god like power. President Trump is helping set up a Marxist Leninist Stalinist style dictatorship int the US. America is dead. Trump killed America.

  44. I'm sorry who did you talk to? How about you show us the people? Because you never ask me for my opinion. Which leads me to believe you got the gun control leftist liberal Democrat opinion but you don't want to talk to men and women who want and uphold our constitutional rights.

  45. That's why you have to pay the courts that's why you have to pay a lawyer and get an evaluation which cost us money out of our own pockets just to prove we are not mentally ill and that why you are saying that I would be guilty until I prove my innocence. Wait that's not right I did nothing wrong and its innocent until proven guilty. But you are saying the opposite which makes theses laws unlawful and your right a dangerous slope. So they are unconstitutional and anyone who tries to enforce them should be removed from office and charged with treason for infringing on our rights. By the way BOZOS you media better start realizing that we are not listening to your rhetoric propaganda.

  46. And what if you are innocent but don't have the money to get a lawyer? Oh let me guess you will provided me one who will make sure I never have my rights.

  47. Adding Meth users and other drug users to list of those Ref Flagged should be considered. It will affect most gun use everywhere in America.

  48. what due process what happened to innocent intell proven guilty in a court of law this is the straw that broke the camel's back

  49. What we are witnessing is a replay of Hitler's "enabling acts".
    Every American's rights are natural and unalienable. Our rights were not granted by government, nor can they be repealed or regulated by government. CONGRESS HAS NO LAWFUL POWER TO INFRINGE UPON OUR RIGHTS!
    Public servants at all levels have forgotten their primary duty – protecting our rights. They are our servants, not our masters.
    This usurpation will not end well for any of us.

  50. Ok ok most family members play the “oh I had no idea “ card so pleaseeeeeee this is bs — our government is literally trying to take over our country as we know it, knew it— very scary times !

  51. Make no mistake folks, Democrats & Republicans BOTH are playing (Good Cop/Bad Cop) with this new 'Red Flag Law' it would appear. Take note how they laugh & smile with each other during this session on Gun Legislation😠

    I'll tell u what (DemocRats) you get the guns out of the hands of all the numerous gang bangers we have running around in this country & you CLEAN UP our streets as well as SECURE our borders once & for all so ISIS & Al-Qaeda can't step foot on our soil & then & ONLY then can we talk about the possibility of gun confiscation. Until that happens? F-OFF. Wait, you want to OPEN UP our borders sooo… F-OFF period.🖕🏻🇺🇸

  52. If police dont start arresting politicians who pass laws that violate the law of the land and the officers that enforce them, police will become a lost cause, only going after the easy poor, even though many powerful people in government get away with the same crimes over and over again that the poor have their lives destroyed over. Police- to harass and collect the citizens and serve and protect the corrupt government. That is 100% the truth.

  53. The real “coup” here is against ‘We The People’ of The United States of America who are being played by both sides like a fine violin, and robbed with diversionary pick-pocket style tactics.

    Definition of ‘FOX’; to baffle or deceive Despite their endless smoke and mirror show, ALL primary media networks and politicians are all on the same side. Be careful who you rely on for your information. ‘The Art of the Deal’ (Trump’s defining MO) is about to pull America’s Constitution right out from beneath it’s people.

  54. What was it conservatives always say? ”If you just follow the law then you have nothing to worry about.” I found it especially hypocritical when the one host complained about losing his rights because someone else messed up. Yet he would still cheerleader stop and frisk laws.

  55. Red flag laws strike me as being roughly the equivalent of having one's car impounded today because someday in the future (next week, next month, next year, just some point in the future) one MIGHT be involved in an accent in which you or someone else COULD be injured. Even though you have done nothing wrong you have no choice but to give up your car. If you resist you will be arrested, fined and probably go to jail. Or if you resist to aggressively you will likely be shot.

    And remember this has nothing to do with the enforcers, they are just following orders, doing their jobs.

  56. Anyone that thinks they will get a fair hearing to get their guns returned is sorely mistaken. Once a judge signs the initial order to deprive a person of their firearms, the burden of proof switches to the accused having to prove beyond reasonable doubt he/she is not a danger.
    The domestic violence laws work the same way. During a divorce, it is common practice for the woman to falsely accuse her husband of being a threat. His guns are confiscated and he can not get them back for a year or more. No judge ever reverses a domestic restraining order, so the guy is considered guilty based upon lies and false accusations prior to a hearing and then when he does get his day in court, the judges don't follow the law.

  57. See this is exactly why I just tune out the Left nowadays. Not a single one of them can have an honest conversation about anything! Just saying 'these laws work' does not make it true, and even if it were true for NY that doesn't mean it will be true for Wyoming (for instance) Georgia. You can infringe on my 2A, property and privacy rights when I can infringe on your voting rights.

  58. Look at our politaions, You have mental. Deceptive people holding in there hands our rights, All corrupt. Most working for George Zorios, For a one world order. Pepole never give this right up ,

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