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Marlin M2 at the Range: A Remarkably Nice SMG


Hi guys, thanks for tuning in to another
video on ForgottenWeapons.com. I’m Ian McCollum, and courtesy of the Morphy Auction Company we are out here today with a Marlin/Hyde M2 submachine gun. This is what was supposed to follow the US M1 Thompson, but ended up getting replaced by the Grease Gun instead. So that’s enough talk, let’s do a little bit of shooting. That is a wonderfully slow and controllable
submachine gun, this thing is nice. I really like this thing. Now, was it a mistake
to cancel this and use the Grease Gun instead? Probably not, they had production problems
with this. If you watch yesterday’s video you can see the entire history of where this gun
came from, and why it didn’t get adopted into service. They ultimately only made about 400 of
these and this is one of the very last ones. But it was a marked improvement over the Thompson. Alright, we’ll get a little bit from behind the shoulder
so you guys can see the ejection port side of the gun. That’s not too bad, hitting some
bowling pins at 50 or 60 yards. This was an accurate gun in US military
testing, and I totally understand why. It doesn’t try to climb. It bounces
around a little bit because the .45 calibre cartridge gives it a little more oomph
than you might get with an equivalent 9mm. This thing’s really nice. Yeah, there we go again. Yeah, this is a nice choice. Well, it’s been really cool getting a chance to
actually put some ammo through one of the… I think there’re a half a dozen of these guns still surviving
today and several of those are in museum collections. So a really enlightening part of firearms historical
research is being able to actually shoot guns like this, and find out were they actually all that they
were supposed to be. Were they good guns? Were they not so good guns? And I’ll tell
you what, this one was definitely a good gun. Had it not been for the manufacturing issues, and the
fact that … by the time this finally got into production they’d designed something that was simpler and cheaper.
And that’s what the Army was more interested in, that new gun of course being the Grease Gun. So this … is one of those few guns I think that
really didn’t get the chance that it deserved. This was a good gun. And for reasons outside
of its control it didn’t actually get adopted. So, if you’re interested in this of course
it is at the Morphy Auction House. Check them out on the web, find
their catalogue, take a look through. You can find all their pictures of this as well
as a whole bunch of other stuff they’ve got. As usual, we’ll finish it off with a 30 round mag. Man, I really like this thing.
And I hit that bowling pin too.

100 thoughts on “Marlin M2 at the Range: A Remarkably Nice SMG

  1. That's pretty cool to see that I was actually right about it being a really good gun to shoot. On your video that you did about it talking about it in detail and showing it off I mentioned how the Wood stock would probably help a lot with making that gun really smooth and not climb at all. I want to buy it can I borrow some money off you guys I promise I'll pay y'all back.

  2. If they kept manufacturing at inland and didn’t have the issues with the sintered metal receiver from contracting it out to marlin, how much better would this have held up against the grease gun? How much cheaper would the grease gun still be if they could’ve gotten this (m2) without manufacturing problems?

  3. That is pretty sweet. Its amazing that some of these old guns are better than some of the newer guns on the market. I'd take that into battle even today.

  4. Had this gun been developed in the inter-war period I imagine that it would have gone a lot further, but by time it was being developed and manufactured the army wanted cheap guns and they wanted them now with such things as accuracy and handling being secondary to cost and ease of manufacture

  5. Imagine designing a gun, the military deciding to use it to replace the Thompson, then you get ditched for the stupid grease gun.

  6. Ian I'm looking for WW1 surplus rifles unfortunately local gun stores don't have anything could you recommend a few online sources thanks a bunch love the channel!

  7. Didn't seem to need a lot of "lean in" and almost no climb. May have been something to that short, fat, bolt mass only moving through a short stroke.

  8. Its a shame that financial considerations so often doom a fine weapon. The demo of it's smooth firing behavior was quite remarkable.

  9. Wow, that looks suuuuuper smoooth for an open bolt SMG.
    I'm guessing though that the low ROF means a slight undergassing of the system. Very diffucult to keep a weapon constantly chugging that slowly as dirt and grime builds up.

  10. It would be interesting to get Ian's view on how this gun would have performed, potentially, if it was redesigned for the 9mm cartridge.

  11. And Gun Jesus looked upon and fired the M2 and did say the word "nice" with more "i's" within it than are usually found and this disciple found it to be jealousy-inspiring, especially with the last mag-dump, and did say; "Gun Jesus, you bloody lucky bloke" and went off to kick the cat.

  12. That's more like a .45-caliber select fire carbine than an smg typical of that era.. Kinda like the Suomi M31. And the buttstock angle is the same as in AR.. 😀

  13. Good gun. Just not good enough quick enough.
    I feel like I’ve seen these guns in movies. Would I be wrong in thinking this?
    If anyone knows please let me know.
    Thanks

  14. Are your videos demonitized? I just saw an ad for a fame… I wonder if YouTube is running ads on your channel and not paying you.

  15. Do you increase the value of a weapon if you touch it? I feel like you reviewing/shooting a weapon could be a selling point in and of itself.

  16. Russians might have replaced the sinthered part to mere welded tube with drilled holes or something akin to Sudayev's PPS 43.

  17. What is that, a dovetailed, log blockhouse over your right shoulder at the end of the video? Where the hell are you?

  18. Shame the M2 wasn't ready for production sooner. The M3 would still come along and be built but the production geared up for the M2 would continue much like it did for the Thompson.

  19. God bless you ian! Thank you for bringing back history and some weapons of the era that some might not of even know exsisted, keep up the great work man!!

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