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Introducing the Scout AR 15 Concept! Semiauto Scout Rifle Pt 1


Howdy, guys and gals! I’m Kyle
Broderick. Welcome to the Social Regressive! In the background we are
continuing our Savage 12FV series where we are taking a basic
varmint rifle and then really working it up to be a precision long range monster – one
that we can test in practical situations like hunting, do some target shooting at
a thousand yards, and then our big culminating event is going to be target
shooting at a mile. This 6.5 Creedmoor rifle is going to get the job done. If
you haven’t seen any of the the videos in this series, that playlist is growing
and I’m gonna put a link to its playlist down below so you can check that out.
But what we’re gonna do now is switch tracks we’re going to add another
rifle. This is one that heads in a totally different direction. In this
box are all the bits that I need to — a very specific rifle: a scout rifle.
You guys may already be familiar with Jeff Cooper’s Scout concept. He worked
with some others to kind of figure out what the rifle of the future would be:
something that kind of steps away from the traditional hunting rifle and does
things a little bit differently. It’s designed for practical use. It’s designed
to be very lightweight, handy, short hard-hitting, and what he wanted was
something that had maybe a 16-inch barrel. Something that was using a lot of
plastics to keep the weight down. It relied on its iron sights. It used a
heavy cartridge like a 308 Winchester maybe some kind of 338 like 338 Federal,
a 450 Bushmaster, something that’s gonna hit pretty hard and be able to take
basically any game in North America as well as being used as the defensive
cartridge if necessary. This should be a rifle that would be very good to defend
hearth and homestead and then also be used as a hunting rifle so say if you
had an ATV or something you just want a rifle that you could sling on there and
be ready for action if hogs or coyotes or something came around it’s a rifle
that would get the job done but there’s nothing in that concept that says that a
scout rifle has to be a bolt-action rifle that’s when people have been
— lately we’ve seen the the gunsite scout rifle
from Ruger there’s the savage 110 Scout which I tested recently and really
enjoyed my friends really really liked that rifle but there’s nothing that
really says it has to be a bolt-action so what we’re gonna do is we are going
to apply the concepts of the scout rifle to an AR either an ar-15 or an ar-10 and
it’s probably many of you have seen from the title already I went with an ar-15
and we’re going to work this rifle up from bits in the next video I’ll show
you the individual elements that I chose to — this and then yeah we’re gonna put
it all together and see how it actually functions in the real world I
specifically chose these elements to kind of head in this scout direction to keep
the rifle very lightweight and we may actually get a good bit of precision in
the mix as well okay now one of the things that marks a scout rifle very
different from a traditional hunting rifle is going to be first off its
reliance on iron sights recently a lot of rifles are being produced about any
kind of iron sights at all they’re relying on that scope a scout rifle
needs to have irons so I do have a good set of ar-15 iron sights in here and I’m
going to show you the ones that I chose and why it shows them but then the other
kind of way of sighting this rifle in is going to be a very peculiar kind of
scope Jeff Cooper wanted folks to use a scope like this one this is actually a
pistol scope very low magnification he was thinking maybe 2×2 and a half up to
maybe three and this is a good example right here this is a one and a half two
for a Simmons unfortunately these are no longer being produced because this is a
very nice pistol rifle scope and you might notice that I said pistol what
this is Jeff Cooper wanted to not only have a low magnification scope that’s
kind of ready for action in all kinds of scenarios whether they’re close or far
but he wanted a scope that set further out on the rifle you might have noticed
on that savage 110 Scout that if people had a scope on it it was actually
sitting pretty far away their face sort of reminiscent of scopes
that you would get on maybe the m1a a while back you know it
has a rail that kind of sits a little further forward in front of the action a
lot of times so you can kind of clear that area where the action is and then
the brass is actually being ejected but yeah he wanted a scope that set a little
further out for I think a couple different reasons first off it’s going
to leave it really easy to get behind that scope for the most part you’re
going to have a very generous eye relief so if you’re off a little bit you’re not
going to you know be greeted by just a blank just kind of black image on the
scope here until you get your eye in the right position it’s gonna be pretty
forgiving but then it’s also going to put its kind of focal distance a little
bit closer to your target if your target is down at 300 yards and you have a
scope sitting at the traditional hunter distance which is going to be about
three and a half inches then if you’re looking from one to the other looking
through the scope and then looking out at your your target you’re not going to
be able to get both really in the same focal plane especially if it’s down
around dusk or just some kind of atmospherics or keeping things a little
bit on the darker side with this if you put this a little bit further out you’re
going to be able to get your your focal planes a little bit closer to each other
it’s going to be a little easier to watch your target and still be able to
see it through the scope your eyes are gonna have to balance just a little bit
instead of a massive difference between the two so yeah this is not the scope
that we’re going to be using on this rifle even though this isn’t a good
example right here and the one that we tested on the savage 110 Scout I have
another one inside here that we’re going to take a close look at I’m really
excited about this this is one that I’ve wanted to test for a good long while now
and we’re gonna see how this does be sure that you subscribe to the channel
like hit the notification bell because we’re going to have a handful of videos
in this series working this rifle up showing off the bits that are in this
box and why I chose them and then getting out and shooting this rifle in
some I think some kind of fun target shooting scenarios
then maybe we’ll get out and be able to do a little bit of hunting as well
thanks a bunch to the companies that donated elements to this I talked to
various people at the Iraq veteran 88 suit and some other places and they were
really excited about the concept and they wanted to get on board so they
threw in a bunch of the bits that you’re gonna see inside this box thank
you also to patrons of the destructive arts for continuing to keep the lights
on keep the film rolling you guys are really making these happen both
that 12FV and this one right here and of course all the reviews that are
coming up in the future we’re gonna have a whole lot of scope reviews but thank
you to patrons Sportman’s Guide at the 338 Lapua Magnum level Thank You Peter
at the 300 Win Mag level I’m gonna see you guys around
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21 thoughts on “Introducing the Scout AR 15 Concept! Semiauto Scout Rifle Pt 1

  1. So an AR with a terrible optic mounted to the handguard making your primary optic subject to massive deflection every time you touch the rail? That's an asinine idea.

  2. Been wanting to do a facsimile of the WWSD carbine that in range tv did a few months back. I'll be interested to see how this build compares to that one.

  3. For a long time I've thought a larger-bore AR-15 would serve the scout rifle role well. I do disagree with your parts list in one area – I strongly believe that, had the technology been available at the time, Cooper would've prescribed something like a modern LPVO 1-6x or 1-8x scope for his scout rifle formula.

    In addition, a significant part of the reason he wanted a forward-mounted scope was for ease of use with stripper clips to reload quickly. With an AR platform that's not a consideration, so the optic doesn't have to be mounted so far forward on the receiver.

    As others have mentioned as well, you risk significantly shifting your zero by mounting your optic to the handguard of the rifle, which will flex and bend when you brace the rifle against anything or use a bipod with it.

    I highly suggest considering a modern LPVO in a more standard position on the receiver for your build.

    Still, it will be an interesting project either way. I'd be interested in a comparison between a bolt-action scout and the AR-based scout once you're finished

  4. This is a good idea but using the standard ar15 completely defeats the purpose. This would be better if you used an SCR lower.

  5. I feel like this can be done easier with an optic that isn’t a long eye relief scope. That’s just me. For me , it’s more of a I did because I can project.

  6. What caliber you thinking? The only thing I will say is even with a “stout” handguard I think there will be a lot of impact shift due to the scope being mounted on the rail. Even a small 1/32” or less will be a BIG change down range

  7. Yes! I have been waiting for someone to do something like this. Every time I suggest that the scout concept could be a semi auto everyone loses their minds.

  8. If this an AR-15 and not an AR-10 or similar, then it is nothing like a scout. And as far as bolt action vs. semi-auto…. all of the research leans to the bolt… scope is mounted forward for fast drW as well as stripper clip

  9. I’m gonna look forward to these series, I was always a fan of the scout concept. Eventually my interest has went to a rifles man/practical rifle concept, but a modernized version of the scout rifle would be very interesting.

  10. It's interesting to see your poor thought process and the ideas and concepts you espouse, then violate 3 secs later

    So you're building a sub 7 pound AR, 39 inches or less OAL, with backup iron sights, an optic, a shooting sling, magazine fed, but in a sub caliber of 223 , which as I'm sure you're aware Cooper loathed, as severely under powered…. And cannot take large game and as we speak the US Army is trialing alternatives to –
    I don't get how that's a scout concept at all.

  11. So, one of the basic tenants of the scout rifle idea is to be able to take down any north american game animal with the rifle. Wouldn't an AR10 be a better platform to start with? I am interested to see where you take this build and will be following along, but you seem to be contradicting the scout rifle idea right from the start with your choice in caliber. Staying tuned in!

  12. Is it a 6.5 Grendel with a 2x or 3x fixed power prism optic?

    I always wanted to see a prism optic instead of a scope on a scout rifle.

    That would be a cool setup.

  13. I looked at the scout concept for a while and realized most of the requirements are irrelevant with modern firearms.

    Cooper wanted a forward mounted scope so he could have a wide field of view and be able to top load rounds, and click in the magazine if rapid fire was needed. Something like an ACOG offers fixed low power, excellent durability, and a wider field of view compared to a LPVO of similar magnification at about 1/2 the weight.

    Semi-autos weren't as reliable as they are now. He chose a bolt action because it forces the shooter to have better fundamentals instead of just firing more rounds from a semi-auto rifle.

    I still believe the .308 is the best cartridge for his intended purpose.

    I built a lightweight ar-10 style rifle as a modern scout.

    JP 16" barrel, LMOS, SCS. Geissle trigger, 2A xanthos receiver, vseven handguard, 4x acog.
    Comes in right at 7lbs with the optic.

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