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How To Buy A Machine Gun Legally

(machine gun firing) – [Voiceover] Well they
don’t call the selectors on an automatic firearm
fun switches for nothing. I’ve yet to hand off a
machine gun to someone and have it not bring
a smile to their face, and it brings me joy exposing people to full auto for the first time. A question I get about two
or three times per week via email is, “How do
I buy a machine gun?” or, “How do I convert my
firearm to fully automatic?” This is a question I once hit upon in an article I wrote in 2014, and my standard operating procedure is to simply send a link to it. However, since it’s asked so often, even in YouTube comments, I thought putting it in a video might be a good idea. For the sake of this video the word “machine gun” will
meet the ATF’s definition, that is any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot automatically more than one shot without manually reloading by a single function of the trigger. The machine gun was invented
by American Hiram Maxim, and, interestingly enough, the USA is one of the few countries on the planet where regular folks can, in fact, own a
fully automatic firearm. In fact, machine guns
have never been illegal in the United States on a federal level. They are heavily regulated, but certainly not illegal. So first let’s hit a
little bit on the timeline of machine gun legislation. Prior to 1934 machine
guns were not regulated any differently than any other firearm. You could quite literally
order a machine gun from a mail order catalog, and people did. Thompson’s, for example,
initially did not interest the military too terribly much, but the guns found a
niche with individuals seeking personal protection, police agencies and,
unfortunately, gangsters. Prompted by prohibitionary gangsters and the rise of organized crime, which, well, law enforcement was seriously outgunned by
the likes of Dillinger, and so on (chuckles),
the United States drafted the National Firearms Act, which was passed in 1934. The National Firearms Act
did not ban machine guns, but the tax imposed upon them was enormous and unaffordable, adjusting for inflation it was
equal to about $3,500 today. To buy a machine gun under the 1934 National Firearms Act an individual needs to submit the following, and this procedure remains
relatively unchanged even today: first, pay a tax of $200; then, fill out a lengthy
application to register your gun with the federal government in duplicate; then, submit fingerprints, submit passport photographs, get your Chief Law Enforcement Official to sign your application, which is no longer in place, and then wait for the results
of your background check to come back approved. So the next big piece of
legislation pertinent to machine guns occurred in 1968 with the Gun Control Act. The Gun Control Act established
that imported firearms which had no sporting purpose were not able to be sold to civilians. Machine guns as a whole
were determined to have no sporting purpose, and,
thus, any machine gun imported after 1968 are able to
be owned only by dealers, military, and police agencies. Now the last piece of
machine gun legislation is to many the coup de grace, in 1986 the Firearm Owners’ Protection Act was intended to prevent
the federal government from creating a registry of gun owners. At the last minute, William Hughes added an amendment that called for the banning of machine guns. Despite the controversial amendment, the Senate adopted H.R. 4332 as an amendment to the final bill. The bill was subsequently
passed and signed on May 19, 1986 by
President Ronald Reagan. Thus, Reagan’s signature
banned the registration of new machine guns in the USA. So what does this mean? Well, this is where it
gets a little complicated. Machine guns are not illegal, but it is illegal to make
and register new ones. There is no way around the
May 19th, 1986 cutoff date. If the machine gun in question
was made after that date you may not own it,
unless you are a dealer. There are three types of machine guns that determine the gun’s legal status. The first and most
important to most people are going to be transferable, guns registered prior to May 19th, 1986 that are able to be owned by everyone. There are only 182,619
transferable machine guns, according to the ATF. The next major category are pre-samples. Pre-samples are machine
guns imported after 1968, but before May 19th of 1986. The 1968 Gun Control Act established that machine guns with
no sporting purposes could not be sold to civilians. Dealers, however, could
buy them and keep them after they give up their licenses. As a general rule, pre-samples cost about half that of a transferable. The last major category are post samples. Post samples are machine guns
made after May 19th of 1986. These are only for dealers, manufacturers, military and police agencies. So, in short, as a result
of the closed registry, we cannot get new production machine guns; we simply trade the ones that have been out there for years. This has resulted in very high prices. For example, one can get an AR-15 for $600 to $700 dollars
in the United States, but I’ve seen converted
automatic registered AR-15s sell for $17,000 and up. Factory Colt machine guns
can go for $25,000 and up. Uzis, which were a few hundred
dollars back in the day, are now bringing $12,000, and this has created a market for an extremely low amount of goods with an insanely high demand. However, as the value of machine guns very seldom goes down, you could probably get
your wife to understand your desire to buy one with the old, “It’s an investment, honey.” And, of course, your
accountant will remind you that if it doesn’t depreciate
it’s not an expense. So to sum up step by step: first, find a machine gun for sale; second, pay the dealer
or individual who has it; three, fill out the ATF
Form 4 in duplicate; four, attach small passport photos; five, complete two FBI fingerprint cards; six, fill out a check to
cover the $200 transfer fee; seven, fill out a
Certification of Compliance, sometimes called a Citizenship Form; eight, submit it to the
NFA branch of the ATF and wait until the transfer is approved; nine, pick up your gun and enjoy. While you used to be able
to omit certain steps by using an LLC or trust, the passing of 41F now
requires trustees to get photographed, printed and
fill out transfer forms; however, it did omit
that old law enforcement signature requirement. So, on to a few Frequently
Asked Questions. One I get quite often
is, “Can I convert my gun “to fully automatic?” The answer is only if you buy
a registered conversion part. For example, my MP5 has
a legally registered sear inside of it that legally
is the machine gun. You cannot legally convert a
firearm to fully automatic, unless you buy legal conversion
parts that were registered prior to May of 1986. Another big one is, “Where
do I look for machine guns?” The answer being that there
are several specialty dealers online who focus on them, but these guys generally
expect full retail value. Auction sites, auction
houses and classifieds online are a great place to look. Also, I’ve gotten deals by
simply finding local people and asking if they want to sell. So the third was one that
I get pretty scarcely, but is always the hardest one to address is something along the lines of, “My relative passed away, “and I found a machine gun
among their personal effects. “What do I do?” That’s a tough one because, for the love of God, look for paperwork, if you find it you can
apply for a tax free Form 5 Estate Transfer and
take possession of the gun. If you cannot find it,
there’s really not a whole lot you can do legally, and you do not want to have it illegally. What you can do is
torch the gun’s receiver and sell the parts, which can actually net
you a healthy profit. However, realistically,
what a lot of people do is put the gun on a Form
10 and give it to a museum. If you’re going to do
this, I would suggest you write an agreement
that if the laws change you can have the gun
transferred back to you. So that’s about it for
machine guns in the USA. They aren’t illegal, but
they are not easy to obtain. The cost, wait time, and
required documentation can be off-putting to many people, but only you can determine
if it is worth the trouble for your own self. Thank you very much for watching. Special thanks to Ventura Munitions for making our videos possible. If you found this video helpful, please hit that subscribe button. It really would help us out. This is Alex C with TFBTV, I hope to see you next time.

100 thoughts on “How To Buy A Machine Gun Legally

  1. Hello, I’m from 2019 and this video will probably offend this generation. Things like this are heavily regulated now. So much for free America now all these crybaby fuck libtard ruining this shit

  2. Australias like myself: What a story Mark lmao

    Plus, I think you Americans no longer need access to automatic weapons. Because there was never a time when you needed them for "self-defence".

  3. Anyone know where I can get me an origional STG44? Just trying to find one so I can put a price goal for future intent

  4. I thought you could buy and legally own and full automatic firearm made before 1986? Correct me if that's wrong,or has changed.

  5. Yes,it is legal. Buuuutttt…. you better have a ton o money. Back in the 90s we used to go out with our buddy Robert,who is a class3 dealer,and fire them. Mg 42 was my fave. When I say you better have money…. I mean we fired$300 in ammo in one afternoon. He sold that mg42 in 1996 for $ 13,000. They ain't cheap. The guys who own them are usually millionaires who ain't out knocking over liquor stores. Oh,and no LEGALLY owned machine gun has been used in a crime. Plus,it's only for fun…. MUCH cheaper to go to knob creek machine gun shoot. Heck,you can even fire an old school Gatling gun there. Remember,the MAIN word in full auto….
    M- O- N – E – Y.

  6. should also address being a dealer though so one can aquire firearms that, at this point, werent used by their great grandfather

  7. Too much goddamn work. Fuck the government for fucking us over. They will have their fucking day the moment they pass any bans.

  8. laws like these make sure good people are criminals. fun is ruined, and criminals are no more or less criminals…

  9. About 17 years ago my brother sold one of two of his GE mini guns for a quarter million dollars and that was a long time ago

  10. Go to the knob Creek shoot it's also a big swap meet so you'll be able to find them available for purchase

  11. My first mac was $900 my first grease gun was $600 galils were 3500 m16a2 was 4-6000 my things have changed now I'm old and kids no longer on anything like that thinking that the price really wouldn't change too much cuz it's kind of a subversive hidden market that most people don't know about but I guess that was the hay day for me, ohh ammo was cheap and I broke my friends stoner 63a1 lol, but the dates still allow for some nice guns hispano suiza 20mm cannons Vulcans miniguns mag58s m60s m249s 1919s and so on the most people hoard their stuff now and it rarely gets shot they generally tend to save it for the knob Creek once a yearand then they may sell depending on market prices and how much money they want and how many guns do they have I know a guy is got 15 m60s in his safe I mean whatever but I think that the rifles would be better served to a person who would enjoy it and shoot it then to just sit in the safe like an asset or gold

  12. Here's a facebook page is on repealing the Hughes Amendment:

    Here's a site on a documentary that supports repealing the Hughes Amendment:

    And here's a funding campaign for said documentary:

    I liked both pages but wasn't able to fund the 3rd one due to money control issues. Anyways like the facebook pages and try to fund the documentary!

  13. Great you brought all the liberal snowflakes to the comment section who’ve never shot a gun before but are quick to tell me what to do with mine 😄😄😄

  14. Me: Why hello there YouTube recommendations, what do you have for me today?
    YouTube: A ticket to the FBI watchlist.

  15. No one:
    NFA: Makes it so expensive to own machine guns, logically mostly gangsters with their dirty money could afford black market ones

  16. Yea. But couldnt you hypothetically become a licensed dealer, and use your license to purchase Machine Guns. "I became a dealer but couldnt sell the 8 machine guns I bought….better close up shop".

  17. Am I the only one who thinks telling people how to buy machine guns isn’t a good idea. I wonder how many shooters found their way to this video.

  18. Our gun laws, are unconstitutional. If you are a free US citizen and you have the money. You should be able to purchase any gun you please, without liceance and registration. It is a right, not a privilege, that is recognized by our constitution. One could argue, that it is our civic duty, to own a rifle, pistol, shotgun and sufficient ammo. It is our duty to be proficient at the use of said firearms, as we are supposed to be the militia. Any person aged 15 thru 55 is the militia. We are all oppressed by any laws, that hinder, interfer, delay or ban us from the process of obtaining current up to date firearms and ammo. Period, motherf*×king full stop!!!!


  20. Step 1: join the american military
    Step 2: buy all of the machine guns
    Step 3: spend all of the time lining up at armory to return

  21. How to buy a machine gun legally:

    1. Read U.S. Const. Amendment II: "A well regulated militia being necessary for the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

    2. Coat hanger time

  22. What I dont understand is why machine guns made after 86 aren't legal, how is a m60 from the 60s different from a m60 made in the 2000s?

  23. Its too easy to convert a semi auto into full auto. If the government goes rogue just convert it. Save money!

  24. These are the things that the NRA, GOA and everybody watching this need to go after to get repealed. We need to play a lot more offense against the anti gunners

  25. Lol the feds put heavy tax on machine guns to deter criminals from getting them… The same criminals that were filthy rich off of the alcohol ban, that the government imposed, and could easily afford it. Ah the irony.

  26. That's dumb.. I mean I love doing everything by the book but just.. ugh if a criminal wanted to obtain an illegal firearm, they either make one that works but sucks, or they use machines to make guns for all bad guys, or they buy them from the bad guy gun makers(thugs in basements or hostage workers) I hate it when anti gun politicians lie intentionally and pretend that criminals buy guns legally like tf

  27. I know these laws are garbage and even if i had mega bucks I'd rather spend the money on upgrading my right index finger to Michalek status via 500,000 rnds and dry fire practice

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