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How gun manufacturers use technology to evade regulation

Gun manufacturers are always innovating, as any successful industry does. After all, they want their customers to buy their products. So they’re finding ways to give gun buyers what they want. Namely, powerful weapons that aren’t closely regulated by the federal government. Former ATF officer David Chipman was involved in classifying this ever-evolving gun technology. I was there when the question of bump stocks came in and the ask was, we want to create a device that allows people with handicaps to their hands to simulate fully automatic gun fire. Since ATF didn’t see bump stocks shoot like machine guns, they decided We are following breaking news for you a storm of gun fire raining down 58 people are dead and more than 515 injured Then fast forward to Las Vegas where the devices used there although technically similar, certainly had an entirely different intention and worked entirely different than the ones ATF first saw. Bumps stocks are part of a much larger trend. Many of the things that we’re seeing today are specific strategies by the gun lobby to circumvent the National Firearms Act. Chipman is referring to the National Firearms Act of 1934. The NFA for short. It was the first federal gun control law. We can never be free from the menace of promiscuous killings until the possession of firearms is everywhere restricted to persons of known character Think of the times of prohibition, it was a particularly violent time for street crime as well as violence against police. The law imposed a for the purchase of weapons considered to be the most lethal at the time. Those weapons include Basically fully-automatic is what a machine gun does. You pull the trigger, it fires completely automatically all the bullets go out unless you interrupt the firing by letting go of the trigger. This will suppress but not eliminate the sound of the muzzle blast. So that opponents won’t necessarily know where the shootings coming from initially. It’s a short-barreled shotgun. The barrel is shorter than 18 inches. You can see how concealable it is. In my estimation, those laws have worked for 80 years. Those are weapons that we rarely saw in crime. Congress strengthened the NFA with a 1986 law that banned civilian ownership of new machine guns. In 2015, roughly 3 out of every 1000 guns traced by the ATF were machine guns. 2016 saw roughly the same number. But, while machine guns are effectively off the streets, gun technology has evolved since the NFA was first passed. Today, companies are circumventing the 80 year old regulations. “We are cutting edge innovators committed to remaining a step ahead, in providing hardcore shooters what they need.” Chipman: Right now we are selling guns that are than what I carried on, as an ATF agent. By now, most people in America are familiar with bump fire stocks. a device added to a semi-automatic gun allowing it to mimic fully automatic fire. Since the Las Vegas massacre in 2017, the primary manufacturer has stopped
taking orders. So the device is not as accessible as it once was. But, it’s still not subject to regulation. Chipman: Anyone could buy these. They’re no age requirements, they’re not regulated by the government. They’re like a toaster. So what about other technology that falls into this category? The most lethal firearms, weapons that activists like Chipman and Jones are most concerned about, Manufacturers like Springfield Armory have designed guns that mimic a short barreled rifle without technically violating the law. These are the identical frames of the well known AR-15 and AK-47 rifles. But they’ve made them into pistols. Take the SAINT. It’s modeled after Springfield Armory’s popular semi-automatic weapon. But instead, it’s a AR-15 pistol with a 7.5″ barrel. A 7.5” barrel is shorter than the 16” legal limit for a rifle. But the barrel length of a pistol isn’t regulated by the National Firearms Act. So why is this gun considered a pistol, not a rifle? Well, it doesn’t have a buttstock Companies have come up with an attachable product called a that basically functions like a buttstock. It was created with the intention of threading your arm through the brace to fire with one hand. But, customers are using the brace to stabilize the gun against their shoulder. like a traditional shoulder stock. That effectively turns the gun into a short-barreled rifle. But because it was created to be fired like a pistol, it still isn’t subject to NFA regulations. Chipman: And because they’re rifle rounds, they are going at a much faster speed, they defeat body armor, and when they hit you they just leave devastating wounds. And those are being treated like normal handguns. Another example is the Maxim 50 Muzzleloader. It’s a single shot gun modeled after an antique style musket. so it’s not nearly as lethal as the AR pistols. Only, at the end of the gun is a what the manufacturer calls a “The same advantages you have with a regular suppressor you can now enjoy with a muzzleloader.” Because the moderator is permanently attached to an ‘antique firearm’ it’s not considered a silencer, and therefore not regulated by the NFA. “The coolest thing about the Maxim 50, it comes right to your door, ready to hunt with.” Which means anyone with $1000 can buy it online. Unless they live in one of a handful of states where the Maxim 50 is facing legal challenges. These products are becoming more common. As the National Firearm Act becomes less relevant, advocates like Chipman keep pushing to modernize the regulatory system. Chipman: I can’t buy a car and not register it, I can’t go buy pharmacy drugs without going to a pharmacy. I can’t go buy beer off the internet and meet someone in a parking lot. But that’s how we regulate guns and because of that, criminals know the avenues in which they can obtain them quite easily. Criminals are aware of the obsolete regulation Now, the broader public needs to be too. Chipman: It’s particularly important that the 70% of Americans who don’t own guns, understand what the gun lobby is doing full time to try to profit at the expense of us not being engaged on this issue.

25 thoughts on “How gun manufacturers use technology to evade regulation

  1. "I can't go buy beer on the internet!" No, but you can buy the materials to brew beer and have them shipped right to your home. LOL! ThinkProgress is a joke!

  2. This video is really very more like pro-gun because it just proves that gun technology keeps advancing and things are always going to happen and then and increasing regulations through a bureaucratic system doesn't solve the core issue as to why these events happen. Trading regulations on Banning certain thing won't discourage the gun industry from coming up with new ways to get around the laws and the more we keep adding more regulations the more the government infringe on people's 2nd amendment rights. Which would inflate the black market for guns because people will smuggle guns from other countries and people who kept their guns or who make guns illegally in their homes.

    Even cnc technology is becoming more and more efficient and affordable that anyone and everyone will have the tools to make their own. Possibly make guns for others

  3. Lol I love that advances in gun technology drives the gun control zealots nuts! Nothing better than seeing the look on an anti gun drones face when their gun control attempts fail!

  4. Fuck the NFA. It's stupid why are silencers more regulated than a gun. Last time I check guns and bullets more deadly than a silencers. Why are sbr and sbs regulated like machine guns if someone want to make a sbr or sbs it takes 5 minutes. What criminal is going to wait the year to do the paperwork and pay 200 dollars to legally own one

  5. 2:56 "Gun technology has evolved since the NFA was first passed"
    That statement is completely false. There have been no significant advances in firearms technology for over 100 years.
    Except for the fact that with 3D printing and CNC mills, it is now easier than ever to circumvent these laws and make bump stocks, magazines, and firearms at home.
    And these people are worried about a silenced muzzleloader? What a joke.

  6. This propaganda video would be hilarious if it sadly were not taken as truth by morons. The NFA is blatantly unconstitutional. A firearm's rate of fire is not indicative of its 'power'. A bump stock is not a machine gun. A pistol brace does not undercut the anachronistic and utterly nonsensical SBR regulations. I can go on for days just off this one video.

    I'm not sure which is worse; the ignorance of the laws, or the ignorance of the people who support them!

  7. You do not need to register a car when you buy it. You only need to register it to drive on public roads. Throughout farm country there are vehicles running around on farms with no tags , registration, or insurance. Driving is a privilege not a right. So I can bumpfire an AR, AK or other similar weapons using my finger or my finger and belt loop. The scary silencer the technology behind a silencer is so simple that only the law abiding actually goes through the steps to legally buy them but a couple of hours and simple hand tools one can manufacture one. So when are we going to ban pressure cookers since they can be turned into bombs, maybe the ATF should regulate those also…

  8. "I can't go buy a car and not register it" YES YOU CAN YOU TOOL! Registration is only necessary if you're driving it on public roads.

  9. So what should we take away from this?….. Oh that prohibition does not work, on anything…. Period. Why? Cause people are going to do whatever they damn well please, especially when it comes to firearms, all prohibition does is create more violence. What happened with the alcohol prohibition? gave raise to murderers and thugs like al capone. what has the drug prohibition done? stricken our streets with violence death, and entire culture of cut throats, with murderers and rapists, alike. Waco happened because of the 1990 s assault weapon ban (gun prohibition), and for what? Cause they wouldn't comply with new gun laws, cause they where legal to own the day before, but not that day? Makes no fing sense, none. It doesn't work never has and never will, I mean you can print guns with 3d printers for god sake, and no one would know that gun exists. Period

  10. the government overreach is against our constitutional rights in our natural right to own any updated weapon tree to protect ourselves they are going above their authoritarian right they do not have any authoritarian right given to them by God they are no better than the next person Norther group or single body person can authorities anything against another person these laws are against Natural right. To protect yourself by any means necessary that is your natural right.

  11. The "former ATF agent" is incorrect. Let me mansplain for you. When you decrease the length of a gun barrel it drastically decreases the velocity of the projectile and WILL NOT defeat a bullet proof vest that most police wear.

    How about instead of trying to disarm people to try and stop gun violence, how about you try the opposite? There are towns where everyone is required to have a firearm, and guess what, THEY HAVE NO CRIME!!!

    Do you understand why the right to bear arms was put after the right to free speech? Look it up!

    People want to stop gun violence and i understand that completely, I DO TOO, but the issue is we humans are inherently evil and will still find a way to kill each other, that is what needs to be addressed. Trying to disarm people is only a bandaid, fix the ethical and moral values first.

  12. Banning pistol braces would NOT get rid of AR15 pistols. It's not the pistol brace that brought about these short rifle caliber pistols, they've always been around. I read the article associated with this video. AR15 pistols were legal to transport like a pistol pre brace and isn't something new as the article insinuated. First off pistols that shoot rifle calibers are not something new. The ATF and NFA act describes a rifle as being designed to be shot from the shoulder. It has always been like this. The thinking that a certain TYPE of firearm action(how it functions), and appearance designates it a rifle is wrong. You'd have to change the basis for gun control and gun classification to ban AR15 pistols. The description of a rifle has ALWAYS been "designed to fired from the shoulder". No matter how it worked or how it looked, if it didn't have a stock it would be a pistol. This goes so far back the semi auto Tommy Gun with its removable stock was sold as a pistol (with a short barrel). How it functions, or how it looks has never mattered. Going by the posters thinking if you add a stock to a handgun it's still a handgun because it looks like a handguns, and fires a round associated with handguns. Uh no it's a rifle! With firearms nothing is specific to one type of firearm and that ATF agent knows this. Chop the barrel and stock off a rifle and now the ONLY way you can shoot it is with your hands so it's a pistol… with an AR15 it has an extension called the buffer tube, you can shoulder that no matter what.. with or without a brace so ban away. This video is making it seem like the brace created a whole new dangerous category weapon when actually it's a comfort item for something that has always* been available.

  13. Funny how "progressives" (communists) pretend to advocate for civil rights while simultaneously trying to dismantle the bill of rights.

  14. Yes you can buy cars, pharmaceuticals, and beer off the internet.

    Get rid of all gun control and drug control laws.

    This video is fucking retarded.

  15. Gun control does not even work and the NFA is Unconstitutional and it didn’t work because the criminals don’t follow laws

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