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Five Reasons the H&K MP5 is Better Than the SIG MPX


– Hey guys, James again with TFB TV, and I’m a very lucky man to
have these two ladies in my life I’ve got an H&K MP5, and a SIG-MPX, and today I’m doing a
follow-up video to the Top Five reasons the MPX is better, video. Today we’re talking about
the top five reasons the H&K MP5 is better. Now in my opinion I think the
H&K MP5 is the crowd favorite. I mean, look at that silhouette. It’s iconic. It’s a beautiful gun. It’s well engineered,
well-made, and proven. So, there’s definitely a
few things that the old MP5 does better than the newer MPX. Now, I’m gonna start with
kind of a low impact plus of the H&K MP5, and
that is collectibility. There is a lot of fun to be had just by owning an H&K MP5. Finding the parts, scrounging them up, selling your parts, trading
parts with other people. These guns are steeped in history. They’ve been made in many
countries across many continents. You’ve got, of course, the
original German H&K MP5’s. You’ve got the MKE, the Turkish guns. You’ve got POF, the Pakistani
Ordinance Factory guns. You’ve even got some Greek MP5’s, so it kinda makes things fun. So, this gun started it’s life out as a German H&K MP5 parts kit. I purchased an MKE flat back in the day, probably around 10 years ago. Back when you couldn’t get H&K flats, and the closest thing you
could get was an imported MKE Turkish Flat. So, I paid probably $400
or $450 for this flat, ten years ago. Now, on the back I’ve got a POF, or a Pakistani Ordinance
Factory collapsible stock. Now, even though I’ve
got a German parts kit, a Turkish receiver, a
Pakistani butt stock, this is still an all H&K gun. It was all made on H&K tooling. Again, that’s what makes
the MP5 so awesome. It’s steeped in history. It’s fun to collect things from. It’s fun to find parts. It’s fun to barter for parts, and you don’t have that with the MPX. Which is right now, kind
of, a soul-less tool as opposed to the MP5, which is not only a very funtional tool but it’s full of history,
and full of tradition. Related to that, parts availability. Now, I don’t know how
many H&K MP5 they’ve made since the 60s, but I’m willing to bet it’s around a buttload. You go to Europe, what do the cops carry if they’ve got a sub-gun? H&K MP5. You go to Mexico, I was
just in Mexico City, these guys had some brand new H&K MP5s, and some of the police
there had some of the oldest beat up H&K MP5s,
probably some of the first ones to roll off the line. Finish completely taken off of them. So, the point is there are a
lot of these guns out there. They’ve been made for a long time so it’s easy to find parts for. Now, for the MPX if you wanna get parts, where do you go? Well, you have to go to SIG but that said, if SIG decided to shut down the MPX tomorrow you’d be out of luck because they’ve only been making it for a couple of years now. Now, compare that to the
MP5, which has a deep pool of guns out there to draw from. Now, for number three, I’m going to call it the H&K trademarks. You’ve got some features that are unique to the H&K Roller Locking guns, and in particular the H&K MP5. For example, you have the tri-lug adapter on the muzzle-end of the gun, and in my opinion this is one of the best, if not the best way to affix and remove a muzzle device. You’ve got the H&K Diopter Sights, these are circle-within-a-circle
sights, with four settings and in my opinion they’re some
of the best sights out there. Using concentric circles has been found to scientifically be more intuitive, and to decrease target acquisition time versus standard post-and-peep sights. Some of you out there
may know that the H&K MP5 and also the P7 pistol
have fluted chambers that are supposed to assist in extraction. You’ve also got the H&K charging handle. Who doesn’t love a nice H&K
slap every now and then? It’s a robust charging handle. A lot of people like charging
on the left side of the gun. Many people, myself included,
think it’s superior to the T-Charging Handle on the AR-15, or if you’re a right-handed shooter, having to go over or under in order to charge, like
the AK-47, for example. Then, you also have
the Paddle Mag Release, a very convenient way of
releasing your magazine, and cool as hell. Finally the H&K clips
and loops for the sling, for slinging up the MP5. It feels like it’s just wrong, if you aren’t using H&K clips. Now, these H&K clips have
actually gone mainstream. You’ll see them on a lot of people’s AR-15 Rifles and Slings. The MP5 is also (MP5 rounds hitting metal)
more shootable. That, in my opinion, is a big advantage that it has over the MPX, but it’s kind of a two-way street. The MPX is about a pound lighter than the mostly steel MP5. But, the MP5’s weight
and the factory trigger much better than the MPX
trigger, a lot smoother. You’re really getting
a more shootable gun. Especially, when you pair that with either a red dot sight. This is a C-More, or those concentric circles. So, that said I guess if I was gonna shoot a match with one
out-of-the-box stock, or if I was gonna shoot
one fully automatic, which I have. I’ve shot the MP5 in several
occasions fully automatic. Imminently controllable. So, it’s a very shootable gun. It’s much more shootable, in my opinion, than an out-of-the-box MPX. Finally the number one reason the H&K MP5 is better than the SIG MPX is perhaps the most obvious,
and the strongest reason and that is because it is a proven design. This gun came about in the 60s. The operating system was borrowed from the H&K G3, which had been
around since the 50s. So, ze German’s already knew that it was going to work
right out of the gate. In fact, the German government always faithful to H&K, adopted the MP5 only two years later, for use by the German Federal Police, The Border Guard, and the Military. The MP5 was somewhat obscure
for the next 15 years, and then you know what happens next Operation Nimrod, 1980, the British SAS, stormed the
Iranian Embassy in London and the SAS commando’s
got posterized with some very choice photographs that would make Chuck Norris cream his pants. And they’re all cradling the H&K MP5. After that, boom! Instant success. Every SWAT team in
America wanted an H&K MP5. Even the SEALS and DELTA FORCE wanted some of that sweet German steel. As I mentioned, earlier in the video it started being produced under contract in Greece, Turkey, Mexico,
France, Switzerland by B&T, Great Britain, and Iran even. 50 years later the H&K MP5
is still being produced, and still being used by Military and Police Forces around the globe. In fact, the MP5 isn’t
necessarily declining because of obsolescence but
really it’s more because the short-barreled rifle-caliber carbine like the M4, the MK-18 etc. Those types of platforms are
becoming much more popular and now a lot of end users believe that shooting an intermediate rifle caliber out of a very small platform, like a PDW sized gun or an SMG sized gun, far surpasses the usefulness of the pistol caliber personal defense
weapon or sub-machine gun. So, the H&K MP5 versus
the M4 might have to wait for another video but for
purposes of today’s video the MP5 versus the MPX, there’s no question that the MP5 is one of the most proven designs
still in common use today. At least as far as sub-machine guns go. Anyways guys, I hope you enjoyed part 2 of the MPX versus the MP5. And stay tuned for part three. Five reasons why the MP5
and the MPX both kinda suck. As usual, thank you to our
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100 thoughts on “Five Reasons the H&K MP5 is Better Than the SIG MPX

  1. Are the width & depth dimensions of the MPX & MP5 magazines the same or close enough. I saw the MPX mag pouches in this video & wondered if they would fit my MP5 mags?

  2. 5 Reasons why the MPX is better than the MP5.

    1. Civilians can actually buy it
    2. Civilians can actually buy it
    3. Civilians can actually buy it
    4. Civilians can actually buy it
    5. Civilians can actually buy it

  3. I paid 34K for a Full Auto German import MP5A2 in Excellent Condition and paid 40K for a Full Auto German G3 in Excellent Condition. I have a M16A1,M16A2,a West German FN FAL G1, a MP40,a FN FNC,and a Army Thompson all full auto (Burst for A2) in transit.

  4. Mk. 18 (always should be written with small k) is pronounced "Mark 18." "Mark" numbers are Naval ordnance identification standards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_(designation)#United_States_Navy

  5. Of course nothing will compare to the mp5. Its such a iconic plateform. Lots of history. If the mpx catches on, give it 15 years of service and than do a comparison. Apples to oranges people, apples to oranges.

  6. this guy count five reason why the mp5 is an awesome weapon. he didn't compare it with the mpx. the mp5 is more proven and the mpx is better engeneered.

  7. Nice, I noticed your MP5 has a 3 position numeric; is it select fire or does the lower just have that milled on the housing?

  8. Lucky bastards… we only have gel blasters in Aus – surprised theyre not illegal here yet – almost the same price as a real fkn gun … 🙁

  9. MP5 is like an AK-47 while the MPX is like the AK-74M.

    Sure, the 47 is reliable, traditional and highly proven, but the 74M is more practical and functional regardless being less known and less popular.

  10. All smg's are over rated. I have fired the MP 5 it is fun, not very effective. You are out of ammo quickly, a lot of marketing.

  11. Just purchased a Zenith Z5rs and got to shoot it the other day. An absolute pleasure to shoot. It is my new favorite gun. So smooth to shoot. Can't wait to SBR it and add a A3 stock.

  12. H&K not supporting it's legacy products is why I just sold P7M8 for twice what I bought it for new in 1992. As to shouldered pistols, I'm fine with my Sig MPX K PSB.

  13. The MPX is highly overrated and far inferior to the mp5 in nearly every respect. The rail on the MPX just slides into place before engaging the pivot pin and my rail was loose as those tolerances between the grooves are very dependant upon perfection and is a flawed design as they will open up over time.

  14. You can equip an acog on the MP5, giving a huge benefit on defence. The MPX however can only have a holo, reflex, or red dot. I rest my case

  15. According to Richard marcinko, the SEALs had mp5’s long before the Iran nonsense…. at least, from what I understood…..

  16. I like how in all the five reasons arguments for both guns, how good of a weapon it is only rates one space.

  17. I don’t think anyone would disagree. I’m the firearms world new usually never means better. I mean look the whole pistol world is going after striker fired handguns.

  18. CZ Scorpion EVO 3 bro. It's new, but 3rd party support is growing, and it's a lot cheaper than an MP5 or an MPX.

  19. The Problem
    These are the neutered semi-auto re-makes of the H&K MP5 & the SIG MPX.
    If these were the much more fun & very effect automatic sub-machine guns of the H&K MP5 & SIG MPX,
    then you got something worth the effort & investment.
    The Positive (sort of)
    The semi-auto re-makes of the H&K MP5 & the SIG MPX look like the real deal & are scary.
    The Choice
    If you have the money get what everyone wanted/wants the auto versions.
    If you like to pose, looking like a bad, tough guy get the "semi-auto" versions in the video of the H&K MP5 or the SIG MPX.

    Just saying.
    EDIT – Happy Flag Day & upcoming Father's Day bros.

  20. 3:28 Four settings is two more than you need with a 9mm shoulder-fired weapon.
    3:34 Yeah, except the drum takes up a huge portion of your sight picture. The FN-style post-type diopter is way more intuitive. Circle within a circle is primo, though, that much is indisputable.

  21. WRONG THE MEXICANS USE THE UZI but I'm sure they have some mp5s for the more high speed looking dudes

  22. I don’t have a gun or neither have I fired one but I really love this channel really help understand firearms in general but thanks for help man

  23. I think your video captions will look more neutrally appealing if you use Helvetica for almost every texts.

  24. 1:53
    Why in the name of all that is holy, would someone ruin a perfectly good mp5 by doing….THAT to it.
    I wish I could unsee it now *retching*

  25. ..had an MP5 with a burst of-3 and retractable stock.. still kicking my butt whenever l come across anything about the MP-5s.
    Sold it in a moment of weakness 🤢🤮..' was given an offer l could not refuse..

  26. I wish for Armscor to make Rock Island Armory MP22 sub guns in .22 TCM9R using German tooling & under Heckler & Koch's license.

    A Pinoy made MP5

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